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HOA Red Flags For Homebuyers

Jim Troth

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That HOA fee isn’t just a line item, it’s a financial system and a rulebook you’re agreeing to live under. We dig into the HOA red flags homebuyers should take seriously before closing, especially if you’re buying a condo or a home with shared amenities. We’ve both got strong opinions about property freedom, but we keep it practical and focused on what protects you: documents, numbers, and how the community is actually maintained.

We start with a real client moment: the inspection gets cancelled because the HOA paperwork raises enough concerns that the buyers walk away. From there, we get specific about HOA financial health, what capital reserves are supposed to cover, and why high monthly dues do not automatically mean the association is prepared. We talk about reserve studies, upcoming major projects, and how underfunding can lead to brutal special assessments that owners may not be able to afford or sell their way out of.

Then we zoom out to the everyday quality signals that tell the truth fast: the condition of common areas, signs of neglect, and whether anyone can even explain who is running the HOA. We also get into CC&Rs and the lifestyle rules that can blow up your plans, like bans on company vehicles, pet limits, restrictions on home based businesses, and rules around boats or RVs. If you want a clear checklist for HOA due diligence and a few hard lines to consider before you sign, this one will save you stress and money.

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Why HOAs Feel Restrictive

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Alright everybody. Laura?

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Jim?

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Today we're gonna talk about the HOAs.

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I'm not a fan, but that's me.

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I'm I'm not a fan either, but you know what I've never I've never lived in a place where we had an HOA. Which is a homeowners association.

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I I couldn't have done it anyways. But they're like they they restrict gardening. They a lot of times they restrict gardening. They tell you what color paint you can do, whether you can have fences.

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Yeah, I I'm not a fan of anybody telling me what I cannot do regarding the property.

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Oh really, honey? Yeah, I know never guess that.

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So here here we're gonna talk about the like red flag for home buyers for an HOA.

When A Buyer Walks Away

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So for example, we just had a client who was doing a home inspection with us, and we ended up canceling it. Um the client had gotten hold of the HOA, their their like information, their contracts, and all of that stuff. He didn't like what they said, his wife didn't like what they said, and so they walked away from the contract.

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Makes sense. So here so I found an article, and we're gonna go over this. Some things you need to look out regarding the HOA.

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Red flags.

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Red flags.

Reserves And Special Assessments

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So the HOA's financial health. You need to look at that. I mean, just because some plays may have high monthly dues doesn't mean they are flush with cash.

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And if they are not flush with cash and they have high monthly dues, that is a concern for several reasons.

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Yeah, because then they need these, it's it's a capital reserve. They need to have funds in a bank account somewhere. So when it's time to replace the community room's uh roof, or it's time to rebuild the pool to pay for repave in the streets or you know, however their situation is, they need to have these funds. So you as a home buyer, you should ask how much how are they doing with their uh their capital reserves? How are their how are they funded?

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And they should actually be able to give you what is in their capital reserves, like they should be able to give you the bank statements, they should, you know, some general idea of what's going on and how much is in it. We had one client, this has been a couple years, that bought into a condo association, and she specifically had us look at the roof, and her roof wasn't in bad shape at all. So she's there for one year, and the next year they jack up the rates and say that they're replacing everybody's roofs.

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Yeah, so this is where you need you need to go to the reserve. Do they have the money to take care of the things as they come up? Because I if they're like a lot of people, they are not planning ahead. And this is where you can get the special assessments. There was uh there was a condo building in Florida that made the news maybe two, three years ago. They they failed miserable mismanagement, yeah, spending the money elsewhere. Um, they had to assess each condo owner, I think it was $160,000 that they were going to pay within the next year. $160,000 to take care of the property. And then so immediately, and it was really sad. Some people just bought this place and moved to Florida to live, and then they get this assessment, and it's like, dude, we we don't have the money for this. And they certainly couldn't sell it when it when whoever's buying the place on NACLANs are $160,000 to take care of. You you lost $160,000 of just on that transaction in that, yes, and you've you've barely owned it. So you need that is a big pitfall of HOAs that they could have. I mean, not most of them are probably not run poorly like that, but you need to know all right, how are your fees? All right, what's in your reserves? If they don't have much money in the reserves, maybe they just fixed all the roofs, maybe they just fixed the pool that just a maintenance on the table. But you need to know, all right, all right, you guys don't have you like guys only have five thousand dollars. What's what was your expenses last year? And they go, Oh, we fixed this, this, this like okay, that's a little better. What's the future like? And and sometimes some buildings they they all should hire a company to come in, maybe do an inspection just outside the common areas, so then they can get do a reserve study going, hey, this is how much we are going to need ten years from now to replace the siding or or the common area. Do we need a new rooftop rooftop unit on the clubhouse? And that unit is going to be twenty thousand dollars to fix that, replace that unit. Do we have that money? So you you don't know. So you that's something that's a first red flag, and they don't have much money in their reserve funds.

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So always make sure to ask for their financials and ask about any major upcoming expenses and if they have any plans to increase the um HOA fees because sometimes they already know when it's taking effect.

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Yeah, you don't want to be surprised if uh $167,000 bill.

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Yeah, or that's insane.

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Yeah, you don't want increased bills. So anyway, another thing

Common Areas Tell The Truth

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you look at is if there's HOA and they got common areas like pool, clubhouse, what whatever the situation is, um, common areas of the condo building. How what's the condition of those? If they're looking pretty ratty, then there's a problem. There's an issue are they collecting dues? Why are they not spending this money to take care of stuff? So that's that's an idea of uh mismanagement, uh neglect. You need to look around all the common areas to see how those look.

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This this is the one that would really piss me off if I lived lived in any place like that. Because some

Rules That Clash With Life

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of these they have their uh covenants and covenants conditions and restrictions. You need to make sure you have that before you buy and move into a place that has an HOA because it may not exactly fit your your lifestyle. Because if say you go to work and you have a company truck, and it's marked. Some HOAs do not re do not allow you to park a company vehicle in the driveway or in the street. That I want they won't pretend that nobody goes to work and nobody has company vehicles or anything like that. So if to me, that'd be like, no, we're we're done.

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If I can't Why can I not bring my company car home if that's all I have? That makes no sense to me.

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Or they don't allow you allow certain pets, or you go your dog can only can only be smaller than 15, 20 pounds, and but here you are, you got a German shepherd. Wow, you're gonna get rid of it. That isn't gonna work. You're gonna get rid of your dog so you can move in this place, you have a bunch of carings tell you what to do. Nope. No, not at all. So check if you're HOA, look at those those uh restrictions that they may have. And some of them will not, they don't want you to have a home-based business.

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I've heard that too.

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Which I mean, all right, say say you do hair on the side or dog groom it, and it's in your house. There's no flashing neon sign outside annoying anybody late at night. People come up and it looks like a comes like a regular, you only do one person at a time. You didn't you're a single person running a solo business. Somebody comes in and bring their dog so you can groom it down in the basement or maybe in the garage. No, there's no preaching to the choir. As soon as some as soon as somebody knows you're doing that, they see your ad. We've been watching Be Witch, the old one. Yes. Was it Gladys?

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Gladys Kravitz.

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Oh, the neighbor Gladys. She's immediately calling somebody and go, you know what they're doing? They're grooming dogs over there.

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And then you got Gladys was Karen before Karen was a thing.

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Oh, yeah. That's true. That is true. So you don't want that. So, and some places do not let you have RVs. You can't have your boats, they can't be uh seen. I remember especially there's one neighborhood. You could not have flowers that were certain color. They only oh, what was it? I think they could only be red and yellow. Those are the only color flowers you could have.

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That's insane. I don't like that. Yes.

Who Runs The HOA Anyway

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So you also one thing you want to look at and like, hey, who in the heck runs the HOA?

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How easy is it to get a hold of them? Like if you send an email out asking for the contracts for the financial records, how long does it take them to get back to you? Do they get back to you?

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Yes, yes. And they go, I don't know who's running that. I'm like, all right, that is a disorganized mess. Next, which could be if they're disorganized and not bothering anybody and nothing needs fit. Kind of how much control they have of stuff or they're supposed to. If they're there but they do nothing, they they're not responsible for taking care of everything, maybe wouldn't bother me as much. But as soon as you get a Karen in there, start jumping on the rules and everything. Nope, nope.

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Drive around the community and look for any signs against the HOA. We have seen that in um I can't remember where we were at, but there was a guy that had a sign up in his yard talking about the HOA and how they were horrible. And I I I mean it's been years. I can't remember what was all on the sign, but there was this big huge sign.

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Wow. Okay.

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So that's a red flag right there. I'm not flag right there.

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No, they've already the best predictor of future performance is past performances.

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Yeah. Have they taken care of things? Do they respond to people?

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Yep. So that's that's

The Four HOA Checks

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about it. The the four things they were you gotta look at their financials. How healthy are they financially? Do they have reserves to fix things up?

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Or are they gonna expensive are your monthly dues? Because remember, these are on top of your mortgage already.

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Yes, yes. And say they only take care of the sh uh snow shoveling. Your fees shouldn't be that high. Right. But kind of depends on what they they go. But that's why you gotta look over their financials. The they do they have capital reserve funds to fix things if there's a major project that needs done. If they don't have much money, do they just fix things or is this money just kind of disappearing somewhere? Are the common areas rough? Are they getting neglected? The covenants, uh conditions, restrictions. Do they have such rules that you cannot drive your company vehicle back home? You can't have your dog, you can't run your home-based business. If they have those things like that, nope.

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Make sure you get those and read those before closing.

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Yep. If you like going fishing and you got a fishing boat, you buy a house, and then you finally realize like, oh shit, you can't fish. I'm not supposed to have a boat out in the driveway or in the backyard. All right, we're gonna do sell it? Kind of stuck. I mean, just bought the house, move it in. You're gonna I guess you could store your boat somewhere else, and that's an additional fee. Start a boat somewhere else.

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On top of the mortgage.

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And then you then you have a concern who who's actually running that and what's that person like? Are they easy to get hold of? If nobody knows who's runs it, all right, that's disorganized, which means nobody's keeping track of anything, which means they're probably not keeping track of their financials either.

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Which means you could get screwed.

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Yes. So anyway, if you're buying a house, condo, whatever, and there's an hoa, get hold of the information regarding that HOA, the financials, and then the uh covenants and restrictions, get hold of those. All right, Laura. Anything any more thoughts on this? Nope. Nope. Other than Laura, would you ever want an HOA? Nope. Yeah, me neither. So anyway, but it's not for everybody.

When An HOA Might Make Sense

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Now, let's say, let's say Jim. Wait, hold on. Let's let's say you and I are old.

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Dude, I would have to be old AF to want to live somewhere with an HOA. I don't have any stairs here, I don't have any people here, I don't have any neighbors here.

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I know fine with the house. We designed the house so it's super easy. But if we did not do this, I still wouldn't move somewhere with an HOA.

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All right, but if you dude, we're gonna be old and on a fixed income. We can't afford an HOA.

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Well, there's there's always that. There's always that. But I'm saying if you're if you're elderly or say you're disabled, or you just don't like working on anything outside of the house, I I always think of a condo for an HOA, but they're not just condos. But a condo, you got HOA, they'll take care of the outside of the grass. I mean, that's that's ideal. It's ideal for some people.

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That's because I'm the one that knows the yard, not you.

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Because you like it.

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That's my point.

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Which is insane to me that she likes that. Anyway, I think that's it for this one. Thank you, everybody.

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